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Please Help Me To Improve - UPDATE!

Journal Entry: Sat Jun 15, 2013, 7:07 PM
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I've recently noticed that while I'm still receiving many wonderful messages from watchers; some of those newer comments contain phrases that I find quite disconcerting.



While I enjoy receiving helpful critique, I must say; commentaries featuring dialogue such as 'the feels', doesn't really help my cause to improve, as a writer/and or stamp maker!


In addition, I find that I have a growing dislike for flattering comments, which don't include the commenter having added the work/s they've commented on, to their favourites.


I think I would much prefer a thoughtful, tactful critique (and not the official requested type, either, as every admirer and/or critic has a unique approach to critiquing work  and not necessarily needing to use 100+ words, to get their point across); than flattering words that don't mean a thing, without an added 'favourite'!


I understand that many of my works aren't everybody's cup of tea (and therefore don't expect to encounter great numbers of admirers, here on DA); but if I am to 'get better', then I would like for watchers to consider being more thoughtful, in approaching me about my work. Like many of you, I pour much energy, into my submissions. I know that any sane hard-working artist no matter their style, level of experience, or medium likes to know that others are genuinely interested in seeing improvement!


In short; please consider carefully, your approach, whenever I upload a new submission. I enjoy reading comments really, I do! But I'd much prefer to know that you genuinely enjoyed said submissions, than to receive flattering comments that (without an added 'favourite') leave me feeling empty.


Thank you.


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A sincere

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to everyone who responded to the original article! The lovely hints I received from fellow writers, has helped, to enable me to become a better artist than what I already am. Also, the comments shared by watchers whose mediums include traditional and/or digital art, are valuable, in allowing me to see that the comments they share, are just as sweet! In short,

:iconthankyoutext1plz::iconthankyoutext2plz::iconthankyoutext3plz::iconthankyoutext4plz::iconthankyoutext5plz:  


 

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:iconmoonwalkinghorse:
MoonwalkingHorse Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Sooo more in depth, thoughtful comments you want? You got it dude.
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PurpleInk777 Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2013
:iconawesomesaucesignplz: :glomp:
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sevenofeleven Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2013
I am grateful that someone took the time to say something and or do something.
They do not have to.
Visitors could just step on by.
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PurpleInk777 Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2013
I agree 100% - people CAN just 'step on by'! :nod:

All the same, I'd like to improve. Which is why I had to put a stop to pointless comments (which, because they lacked hints on how to improve - or even why they liked said works), left me wondering whether people took me seriously enough, as a writer.
:frustrated:

Fortunately (after reading this), several commenters offered me some wonderful hints! :w00t: I'm heartily grateful to them for their suggestions. :nod: Thanks again, guys/gals! :glomp:
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SilverSongAlchemist Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I read a lot.
What I do is take a sentence from certain books and try to out do it. Try and be more descriptive.
Make sure you have your spelling correct and you actually know what certain words mean.
If you want you could try that.
Here, try making this simple phrase nice and descriptive.
'I saw the ocean, and it was very pretty.'
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PurpleInk777 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013
Thanks for commenting AND faving Please Help Me To Improve! :huggle: (You'll be pleased to know that this journal has been updated! A kindly 'thank you' message can be found, by viewing Please Help Me To Improve - UPDATE!) ;)

Your suggestions - along with those made by another writer, ~RainbowCrash33 - are just what the doctor ordered! :w00t: With these handy hints in mind, I hope to reach a wider audience, than the relatively miniscule one that I've garnered, so far! :nod:

Once again, :iconthankyouflowerplz:, for your kindly critique! So very appreciated!
:iconbighugplz1::iconbighugplz2: :iconbighugplza::iconbighugplzb:
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SilverSongAlchemist Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
No problem at all Holly Doll
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PurpleInk777 Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2013
:huggle:

By the way, I love the "Holly Doll"! So cute! :love:

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SilverSongAlchemist Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Why thank you ^^
It just came to me one day and I've been calling everyone that ever since
If you want you're free to use it if you want to ^^
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PurpleInk777 Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2013
You're very welcome! :hug:

I think I'll take you up on that one! (One would have to be a dolt, to be offended by someone calling them "Holly Doll"! ;))
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SilverSongAlchemist Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
:-3
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JessiRenee Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Professional General Artist
I wouldn't be able to help you improve as a writer, since I'm not one. But I am curious... what makes favorites so much more valuable to you? I personally value comments a lot more, since I hate the "fave and run". To me, certain people will fave anything, just to put it in their "collection". I only favorite something if it's really special to me, and inspiring. Sometimes I'll even go back through my favorite collection and un-fave stuff that doesn't really strike my fancy anymore. But I love getting comments, and commenting on others work because it makes me feel connected to the artist. It makes it seem like "hey, this piece of work is worth my time to type out how much I like it." It breaks my heart when artists don't reply to a heartfelt comment I've left them (simple as it may be). I don't think a lot of the praise you get is as empty as it seems (maybe some of it, but not all). So anyway, said all that to say, why are favorites more important to you? :D I'm just curious.
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PurpleInk777 Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013
That's all right, Jess. Not every artist is a painter, or a writer - or even a games producer/maker! Likewise, I'm not suggesting that all of my watchers simply pepper me with ideas, in order that I improve. (I know I can't suggest to a digital artist how to improve, per se. So I'm definitely NOT going to ask that they write me with ideas, unless they have had some experience, there.) :no:

As for comments: I don't bemoan comments. Believe me, I enjoy receiving them! But comments that A) Just aim to flatter, without any sign of suggesting why the person enjoyed/didn't enjoy the submission, or else how I could improve (if need be), and/or how; and/or B) Commenting in like manner without adding to their favourites; can become frustrating. :frustrated:

As for favourites: Even though I find fave-and-runs annoying (at times); a wordy, flattering comment (especially one that catapults me to the stars) is pointless, without the person having added said work to their favourites. I'd like to think that my work is genuinely appreciated - not just in words, but in deeds, too. It's a small request, but one that I feel every artist needs to make; in order to know that their work is reaching its intended audience! :nod:

Even if a person later finds that a work has 'lost its zing', so to speak (and therefore removes the item from their favourites), because the artist isn't aware of such removals, it doesn't matter in the slightest! The main thing is, everyone can 'move on' - whether adding, or removing, items! (Fashion may come round in cycles, but who wants to wear Mom's well worn old jeans/jacket/whatever - simply because it's trendy, once again? Especially 30 years after Mom folded said item/s, before packing it/them away, for posterity? :blush:) The same goes for art: If it doesn't hold the same degree of magic to you, as when you first added it to your collection; then you're wise to clear the clutter. ;)

Nevertheless, whenever one goes shopping (for whatever), merely saying how awesome/tasty/warm/trendy the items of interest/necessity are, isn't going to mean that the items belongs to the person. They can charm the storekeeper till the cows come home, but that doesn't mean that they will bring the items home with them. No sale equals no satisfaction/one-sided satisfaction - mainly for the charming window-shopper! But for the person who BUYS the object - only to spring clean, once the item is no longer useful/has been eaten/drunk/whatever - there's the added bonus that both they and the person they bought them from, enjoyed the process of buying and selling. :nod:
As for people who don't reply to comments: :iconhug1plz: That is one thorn that really needs to be drawn out of the sides of many a hard-working person, the world over! I share your frustration. It sucks jawbreakers, to have sincerely expressed your thoughts - only to have people A) Ignore you completely; and/or B) Play favourites! :frustrated:

So you see, comments - especially sincere ones - mean the world to me! I just get bugged by those annoying flatterers, who charm the socks off of people - only to walk away, without so much as a second glance. It leaves me wondering why they even bothered to comment, in the first place! :ohmygod: :facepalm:

Art is just such a mine field! :bomb: But, whether one prefers comments, favourites, or both; it's nice to feel appreciated! :sniff:

Meanwhile, enjoy some :iconbighugplz1::iconbighugplz2: :iconbighugplza::iconbighugplzb:

N.B. Godspeed, on and for your trip to OK! You're in my prayers! :huggle:
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JessiRenee Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013  Professional General Artist
huh, I never thought about it being compared to shopping.. very good example! It makes sense now. :D So here's hoping that you get lots of "sales"! :giggle:

and thanks! I hope this trip will be a good experience for us. :D
:iconbighugplza::iconbighugplz2: :iconbighugplz1::iconbighugplzb: (now doesn't this look strange?) hahaha
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PurpleInk777 Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2013
Oh yes, adding a work you like to your favourites, is like shopping for an item of interest: Just looking at the item, then talking about it; isn't enough! In order to really appreciate it, you need to actually BUY it! ;) Then, whenever said item is no longer any use to you, by all means, clear the clutter! =D

No one in their right mind keeps a three-legged chair (unless it's a three-legged stool, of course)! ;) Then, too, apple cores don't make the best ornaments! :no: But because it's your purchase, then no one is going to mind in the slightest, if you decide to part company with it, after it's spent/no longer any use! =D

Oh yes, far better, to have had a shopper quickly pick up an item he/she loves, purchase it without a word - then leave as quickly as he/she came in to the store; than to have someone praise you, your store and/or anything (and everything) else they see there - only to leave without even purchasing the items they'd spent so long bragging about! :ohmygod:
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You're welcome! :hug: Be sure to tell all, once you arrive back home! :nod:

LOL Those huggers DO look strange! But also gorgeous oddities! (They're so cute!! :love:)
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JessiRenee Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2013  Professional General Artist
oops, lol.. I replied to the wrong thing. That comment/fave frustrated comment was supposed to go here. XD
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PurpleInk777 Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2013
LOL That's OK. Lots of people do just as you've done! :hug:

Still, I know what you mean/meant. :nod:

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RainbowCrash33 Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I have some tips as a fellow writer that might help you. :) I havn't read any of your writing myself yet, but saw your journal in my messages and thought I would stop by to help.

First, revise and edit your writing multiple times. I hate doing that myself but if I do it over and over again, I catch mistakes that I didn't catch the first time. It really helps make your writing look neater and have less mistakes.

Second, add details. There is no such thing as to long of a story. ;) Adding things makes things more descriptive and also makes it much more fun for the reader. For example, instead of saying: "The dog was brown and his eyes were blue." You could say "The dogs shiny brown coat shine in the mid-afternoon sun. His pale blue eyes sparkled in anticipation." It helps give the reader a better image of what is going on.

Thirdly, have fun with your writing! All the characters personalities are always fun to come up with. I write FanFiction myself but it is always fun the picture what the character would do in certain situations. I would recommend, if you want, to start out writing some FanFiction and then going on to writing your own characters. Again I haven't read any of your pieces yet so I don't know really what you already write but still. It will help out a lot. :)

I hope this helps! ^_^ Feel free to message me if you want some more tips. I don't know if this helped or not but I hope it did. Have a great rest of you day! ;)
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Relic-Angel Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If we're showered with praise all the time then that doesn't help us improve as artists. :no: I get where you're coming from.
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xxTrinityLoverxx Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Agreed.
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Relic-Angel Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You agree too? :)
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xxTrinityLoverxx Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
100% The only type of criticism I got was my brother showing me a double sentence -_-". So now I go over everything even more carefully.
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Relic-Angel Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:nod: Best thing to do, really. You wouldn't want to find any bumps or plotholes in the road.
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xxTrinityLoverxx Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Tell me about. I always went over my stuff but when he pointed that out I'm like Santa checking his list.
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Relic-Angel Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:laughing: Is it really that bad?
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xxTrinityLoverxx Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
No it not but I get really worried so I go over it and over it until I feel satisfied :rofl:
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